I hear lots of sh!t about how ISO loading hurts the industry. Duz any1 here actaully care?? I dont!! Think about it, they charge 50bucks for 70cents worth of platic, and when we download they b!tch about it, who blames people for downloading? I dont, its common sense!!! Duz the industry protect me?? NO!!! And I dont want them too, I just want cheap games!

I dont care if they go under, there are lots of homebrews anyways. Homebrews are games by gamers for gamers, thats the way I like it. It seems like in this industry there;s no room for the gamers, just the people out to make a quick buck!!

Thanks a debate that's on alot of sites at one time or another. But you really can't compare a 75c piece of plastic. You have to remember programmers and artist. If you ever did any kind of programming you would understand how much work really goes into sometimes the smallest things on the screen. I understand that there's alot of work that goes into these games and programming. I've done some programming so I know first hand how much work goes into it. Now tht I said all that, let me also say it doesn't stop me. if I go to jacc in the box and I only only 1 burger and they give me 10 I'm not going to say anything. If the cable company gives me all channels for free forover a year, again I'm not going to say anything, just enjoy it. If there's a chance for me to come out ahead I will do it.

Sony, MS, Nintendo, they are businesses. Some times you come out on top sometimes you don't. Me downloading every game they have for free and not having to pay for anything but the system, well that's me coming out on top.

RealG your a pain in teh ass.. i care actually

imagine yourself as a Game-Designer.. you spend all your time workin on game for a job while your boss is bitchin at you. You release it and you only get 50 - 100 sales.. wont you get ticked off? This is going to get a game-designer fired.. no more good games will come out.. and the system will get discontinued and thats exactly what happened to the Dreamcast

Same here, I care. Sure, I download games, but I actually buy the stuff that I really like.

I care, I use ISOs to test games and then buy the UMD if I find that I'm playing the game a lot.

I buy the game discs I like I've never downloaded homebrew games, nothing at all against the people who do though. Movies If I like 'em I'll buy 'em! What I don't really do anymore is go to the theater(better be a REALLY good flick for me to do that). When I do buy the dvd the only people who don't really have to pay for 'em are people here because I'm ripping 'em straight to mp4 and uploading my collection(at least starting to..)

So realR187 you seem to be finding random topics to post about on PSP-SPOT. Please only post things that are relevant and not been posted throughout PSP-SPOT continuously. Whatmore is you even used some moral decency and common sense, you would we able to see what decent people see!
So your basically saying, you want no knew consoles, no new games to play.... no more advances in the gaming industry. You do care if they go into administration, as there simply wont be no new games consoles. Hundreds of thousands worldwide will louse their jobs. Sure home brew is good in some ways, though i did not use it. Really home brew is okay.... it does not cheat anyone of profit and helps people to enjoy their console more. However, its the ISO/CSO games that hurt the industry.
Im sick and tired of you posting without using your brain!
F!uck O!ff.

Do u think I have that much ca$h??? Why should I care about the game designer, when they dont care about me?? When I only had my gameboy color in 2000!! I got a GBA in like 2003. A computer in like 2000 but it was made in 1994! U think they gave a F#$% about my situation, so I pay $230 for a PSP and they still want money????

I dont think ISO hurts the industry cuz if there wasnt PSP ISOs I wouldnt have bought my PSP[230] or MS [100], so thanks to ISOs, sony made $330 off me!!

Piracy does damage the industry. You really need to consider what your saying. Think it through. Sony did not make £230 off the purchase of your PSP.... they need to coverage manufacturing costs, staff wages and packaging. Then the shop makes a large profit. I agree sony does make a huge profit. Let them. Its due to great products, positive ad campaigns and brilliant support from developers. One last thing if you never spent that money on your PSP someone else would. Someone whos actually buys games. Even though i myself do download some games i do contributed to the industry as i frequently buy games. Really the question is, if you cannot afford games get a job! Its taken a long time for me to get at the position im in at Packard Bell....most people work hard at their carriers, you should.

Im dont wanan over pay for a disc!!! Ill buy games too to blance it out like one for ever 10 downloaded!

Strangely, that seems to make sense to me.
And it also seems to make sense that piracy doesn't hurt the industry in the cases where the people who are downloading games would not have bought the games if it was not available for download.
However, in the majority of cases, people can afford to buy the games and still download them; that's what really hurts the industry.

I could buy them,,but not all the ones I want, I dont dont wanna overpay, Ill give them some money but not as much as they are asking for!! Thats too much!!

As ive said before people who download games are not necessarily hurting the industry- as Adw888 has also said. However, as long as people buy the games they intend to download its not as devastating. Or at least some of the games. Don't forget Sony makes profit from the initial purchase and a small amount form games and accessories third party of not. There still one major problem.... An increase in down loaders, causes a decrease in sales. Which means support from developing studios are dropped. Which also has an effect on Sony's overall profit. It profit drops it has catastrophic effects on the rest of the company.
For example, at Packard Bell our series of PC the istart169 has had appalling sales figures. This meant a newer model had to be introduced namely the istart MC2369 which cost more money in both the development testing and manufacturing. Costing more money. Although, ive got a Hewlett Packard Media Centre PC- i dont really set a good example do i?

I dont want sony yo have a HUGE profit at my expense...

I know its a pain spending all this money, but thats life!

Simple. I could not agree more. Why make money to dwell on it. Nice logic.

Cheers allsorts111.

homebrew doesnt have very good graphics, the games are where it seems to be kinda wrong, (just an opinion though) plus I want them to keep maken um


dont they take a dive on the counsole, so they only made 100 off you (why are ms so expensive any way?)

As technology gets more advanced, the prices get higher because of the freshness of the product, and the cost of production. Demand also plays a big part. That's why consoles and games are getting more expensive with every new gen. Also...

Ok, think about the other side of this. You gave Sony about $330 for their products. Lets just say you have 10 games downloaded, and those games cost between $45 and $50, which is normal for a PSP game, that's about $450 to $500 you basically stole from Sony. Like allsorts111 said, people don't save their money just to look at it, they save their money so they can actually use it on something. I save my money for things for my car, but I still occasionally buy PSP games.

I never stole, instead of 45-50 lets say about 70cent-a dollar cuz thats how much plastic costs!!! and its not sloten since they never had it to begin with, About spending money begin part of life, do I look like some1 who takes life as it is?? I change life by any means necessary!!

First, you paid too much for the psp because you probably bought it new instead of reconditioned, second the money WAS taken from Sony because instead of paying THEM for the game you downloaded it from somewhere for nothing. 70 cents for material doesnt cover the salaries, insurance cost, overtime, shipping cost(both ways) 70 cents isn't where it ends, it ends with the cost of paying all those people who maufacture the end product and ship it, not just the developers and designers.

I'm not gonna respond in this thread anymore, it's too much like talking to Corky from Life Goes On.

RealG187 :

70 cent is just for the damn plastic....
games not included....

what makes you think the games included for free
with the cheap plastic ...?

the people that makes the game are paid,
they dont do it for free...

no money no people (programmer, designer..etc)
no people no games...
simple as that.


think before you talk.
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Whats more, im assuming you have brought a computer, Tv and other electrical items. For example, you've told me your running Microsoft windows. Somewhere along the line microsoft has made a huge amount of money from you using their product. Either from you buying an end-user package or the preinstalled version on your computer Microsoft have made a large profit. Another, example is your television or TV licence. You pay for that right. Anyways, this topic is really pointless know. Everything that could have been said; has been said.
*TOPIC CLOSED*

I dont care if I pay 70 cetns and get a blank disc, I could just download!!! ALso I dont care about their costs, they dont care about mine, they are richer than me and I need the money more, anyways lets not let this topic start sh!t......